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Open for discussion: July 5

Posted by laurie on July 5, 2012

23 Responses to “Open for discussion: July 5”

  1. Did any one see this article published a short time ago ? Beagles did not fair too badly !

    Survey: Owning a Certain Type of Dog Can Influence Your Dating Life
    Overall the most desirable dogs for men to have, according to women, were Labradors and Golden Retrievers, for their sweet and loyal disposition. Sure, they may not be able to protect you from an intruder because they’re more liable to lick, rather than bite, the criminal to death, but they’re known to be loyal – which women preferred to all other traits. As for how men viewed women and their canine companions, although Beagle owners were most commonly associated with “exactly what men want in a good woman,” dogs like Golden Retrievers were the top choice, once again.

  2. Nancy J said

    I didn’t see that report, but I did see the report on intelligence of 100 breeds of dogs and how they rated. The man who did the tests on the dogs had a beagle for his grandkids and seemed to like them.. However, he said they were second from the bottom on the rating scale. I think they use their intelligence as selectively as they do their hearing and desire to obey. There’s an on/off switch in there somewhere.

    • Luana, Cody, and Henry said

      I agree, It’s not that they don’t UNDERSTAND what you want, it’s that they are too HARD-HEADED and stubborn to do it! They want to go their own way (following the nose!)

      • Susan in DE said

        I don’t think it’s hard-headed and stubborn. It’s more like, “Independent to a fault.” But then again, I think Josie says the same thing about me. :->

    • Carol, Eddy's mom said

      I agree, beagles are very smart. They just chose when and where to use their intelligence. In my experience, if there is some benefit to a beagle, they are supreme problem solvers.

  3. Kate (Kramer and Gandolf's Mom) said

    I actually looked into “tests” like that because Kramer is extremely smart and thoughtful, and Beagles were so near the bottom. I learned that they measure how many times a dog is told to do something before he’ll do it on command or something like that. I balked at it, thinking Kramer and Gandolf will pee on command when we say, “Go Pee! We go night night” because they know that that means Last Outs, but try to get them to “Leave it” when they’ve grounded and surrounded a squirrel – I don’t think so. 🙂

  4. Amy~Cobalt & Onyx's Mom. said

    Off topic, and I hope you won’t mind. Erich called at 9:30 yesterday morning. Onyx was ok, this time it was Cobalt. Erich has been feeding Onyx extra protein to help with the anemia, and was giving it to Cobalt too without thinking. It sent Cobalt into a pancreatic attack, and Cobalt spent most of yesterday plus overnight in the emergency vet. It was his first night away from home EVER. This morning Erich picked him up and they said to go to our vet, so Erich went straight there. He’s at our vet now, still dehydrated. HOpefully he’ll get better during the day and can come home tonight. I think my pups are going to be glad to see Mommy come home!

    • Kramer and Gandolf's mom, Kate said

      Oh My! How scary! I bet they will be very happy to see you! I hope Cobalt will be good to go home.

    • Susan in DE said

      Amy, sending good thoughts for both Cobalt and Onyx. It’s bad enough having one not well, let alone two (and you’re not home, so it stresses you out that much more). Hang in there, I’m sure it will be okay!

    • Luana, Cody, and Henry said

      Sending positive thoughts to both Cobalt and Onyx that everything turns out better than okay!

      • Sue ~ Barney & Jodi's Mom said

        Oh I feel so bad for YOU, being away from home.Paws crossed everything resolves itself. Hugs

    • Amy~Cobalt & Onyx's Mom. said

      Thank you all. Cobalt came home last night and then went back to the vet this am. We couldn’t leave him there alone- no staff there overnight. He has severe seperation anxiety, and we were afraid if he had no humans, he would have a stroke from being so upset. Latest report around 6pm tonight is that he is home again, likely to stay. He ate a little broth and then later some cottage cheese, and is looking for more food.

      Onyx still hasn’t kicked the infection, so she has another appt on Monday. I’m back to Ohio tomorrow- can’t wait to get to see my babies.

  5. Cathy, Gomez, Lily & Mr Peabz said

    I’ve been watching Lily for stomach issues since Tuesday when she managed to get in the overflow vat of chicken grease from the smoker that my husband was using to smoke four whole chickens. Apparently she did a LOT of licking, while more grease dripped onto her knobby head, and got plenty of chicken fat. She was so happy and pleased with herself! Walked around smiling and wagging the rest of the day.

    She still smells like smoked chicken, too.

    • Susan in DE said

      Rob wants a smoker. Thanks for the heads up, we’ll have to be sure it’s out of beagle range.

      • Sue ~ Barney & Jodi's Mom said

        We have a smoker, an electric one. My husband didn’t think he would like it but he loves it. The drip pan is where the pups can’t get to it. Yeah

  6. ChristyACB said

    Need some help from everyone for Charlie. Charlie gets the shakies when there is thunder and lightning…but now it is worse and it happens for almost every noise in the same tone range. Airplane passing, fireworks, trucks passing on the bridge (busy bridge), trains….it’s getting out of control. He simply will not pee or do anything when he is in that kind of fright. I take him out to show him there’s nothing there and if it was just a passing plane or something, after 15 minutes or so he’ll calm down enough but be easily set off again. But like with the fireworks going all day, he just wouldn’t pee. After 2 hours outside in +90 heat, I was really at my wits end with him since I only had a few more hours to sleep before getting up for work.

    I’ve got a thunder shirt and it does nothing. I’ve tried a pill of benadryl and it does nothing. I’ve tried putting sitting with him in the laundry room with the dryer going and that works after an hour or two, but I have to stay in there with him and he’ll start right back up if he hears another noise.

    I wonder if we’ve accidentally reinforced this behavior by cooing and coddling him when he starts it up? Have we?

    Does anyone have any more ideas? I’m completely at a loss and I can’t spend hours each day trying to get him to pee since I only have about 2 hours of life between work and bed in the first place. And I don’t want to start disliking him and I do fear that will happen. And he does have to pee….he is old and on a bunch of meds because of an infection in his jaw that he’s had since before I got him. He can’t just not drink and hold it or there will be even more problems. He has to drink a good deal for the meds. Any help and advice welcomed!

    • Ximmi and Kammi said

      Sounds like my fellow Xanti, he got so bad I finally had to put him on a low dose of anxiety meds full time, which made life easier for him and the rest of the household. But we tried OtC Composer from the vets office first which worked for awhile.

      And the benadryl dose 1mg per pound of beagle weight can be given up to 3 times a day, we tried that also.

    • laurie said

      Ask your vet about Clomicalm (clomipramine), an anti-depressant used in dogs for anxiety, such as separation anxiety. Both Clayton and Scooter took it at different points in time when they were “going mental”. We did not notice any side-effects but it did calm them down somewhat.

    • Nancy J said

      The experts will tell you that any “it’s ok, sweety” or “you’re all right, pooky” or any talk at all reinforces and encourages anxiety. It’s difficult, because reassuring words are the first thing you think of and a few hugs or pats on the head go naturally with them. You being a rock of stability, maintaining the semblance of normality, not acknowledging the sounds, or situations whatsoever is what they recommend. We do it with our pack and it seems to work. It helps that we have 2 or 3 who don’t notice anything and they go on like normal. The nervous one looks around and sees that everybody else is cool, so they do calm down.

      I have read that if you play sound cds in the background, very quietly, it gets them accustomed to the noises. Don’t know about that–never had to try it.

      I feel for you. I exist on precious little sleep, also and an anxious pup can make for awful stress. Good luck and good thoughts.

  7. Cathy, Gomez, Lily & Mr Peabz said

    I second the recommendation of Clomicalm. Two of my dogs are fearful of a lot of stuff, and the third is absolutely petrified of fireworks and the vet. So I guess that makes three fearful dogs.

    I recently got “A Guide to Living With & Training a Fearful Dog” by Debbie Jacobs, and it has helped a lot. One of the things the author says – disagreeing with other experts – is that comforting your dog is fine and won’t reinforce the fear behavior, but it should be comfort and not praise. She also has some good points on socializing them to the source of the fear.

  8. Julie - JB & Cassie's Mum in England said

    We go with the theory that ignoring a dog when it’s anxious and keeping cool yourself works best. When we got JB as a pup I had been made redundant and I took a 9 month break to be with him whilst he was really little. During that time of course he got used to going everywhere with me and Michael and was rarely, if ever, left home alone. So when I got a part time job, the week before I started I began to de-sensitise him to being left. Each morning I left the house at the same time, for about an hour but gradually extending the time. When I left I simply walked out of the house, locked the door and drove away without speaking to him or even looking at him. This worked really well and now, seven years later, we do exactly the same. We have Cassie now too but we do just the same when they’re being left at home. However when we return we make a fuss of them and give them a treat for being good and waiting for us. On 5 November (Bonfire Night) we draw the curtains and turn the TV up a ltitle and then ignore the fireworks. Both are fine but won’t go out for a bed time pee, so we generally have to get up around 2.00 a.m. to let them out. Oher than that, if there’s an unusual noise and they see we’re not bothered by it, they aren’t either. So it may well be worth trying the ‘ignore it and carry on’ method – if the pack leader isn’t upset, generally the rest of the pack are OK.

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